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Update questions
I got a few questions here.

1) What are the facts about epic spells for True Fire Sorcerors? SInce they have no school attached, my guess would be that they are not affected by the class-override. Can that be confirmed?

2) Do True Fire Sorcerers need spell components for higher level spells?

3) If a True Fire Sorceror chooses the invisibility one time per day ability, does it work?
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Re: Update questions
Two out of three questions are answered in topics created less than two days ago. Please check next time?

And as far as 2 goes, I do not know the answer for sure, but I personally wouldn't see why they wouldn't need them!
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Re: Update questions
For convenience.

1.) Epic spells are still 1/day, as far as I know.

2.) There's no reason for them not to need spell components.

3.) Potions don't work on them, items with magic properties don't work on them, so I doubt the invisibility once per day would work on them, would it? It isn't evocation.
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Re: Update questions
Maybe the invisibility should work though, especially if there's no warning that it won't so True Flame sorcs don't take a useless +1 ECL?

After all when Svirfs and Duergar had invisibility as a racial feat, it would still work even if they had illusion as a prohibited spell school.
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Re: Update questions
Ludlow wrote:

After all when Svirfs and Duergar had invisibility as a racial feat, it would still work even if they had illusion as a prohibited spell school.


Which may be part of the reason why subclass bonuses have been removed.

I don't think it needs to be changed, but there should be a warning notice in the subclass confirmation dialog that tells players they won't be able to use certain bonus tokens.

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Re: Update questions
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Re: Update questions
Yiushka wrote:

I believe both can, yes.

They aren't spells, but abilities of some sort.


Just tested it.

So, the wizard can forbid illusion and still have the invisibility spell.
The true flame sorcerer cannot cast invis.

It can cast darkness, but that's an evocation, and can cast light, but that's a cantrip.

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Re: Update questions
I think if they didn't need to use spell components, then the description of the class probably would've said so. That said, there's not too many spammable evocations in spell levels 7-9. Mostly you're gonna be maximizing lower level evocations for your higher level spell slots.
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Re: Update questions
Ludlow wrote:

Maybe the invisibility should work though, especially if there's no warning that it won't so True Flame sorcs don't take a useless +1 ECL?

After all when Svirfs and Duergar had invisibility as a racial feat, it would still work even if they had illusion as a prohibited spell school.



To clarify.

Invisibility gift will make the True Flame caster waste a gift of +0.5 ECL, not +1 ECL.

As for the second part - yeah, they could take it and they still can. Wizards with a forbidden Illusion spellschool still can have that invisibility gift.

So, go wild and make an enchantment specialist (I wouldn't advise losing Illusions altogether, unless you have an idea of what you are really losing). Wink

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Re: Update questions
Yiushka wrote:

Ludlow wrote:


So, go wild and make an enchantment specialist (I wouldn't advise losing Illusions altogether, unless you have an idea of what you are really losing). Wink



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